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On this blog you’ll find many posts, discussions, questions, examples and articles on the subject of the Marvels Cine Picture Style for Canon HDSLR cameras. We have decided to dedicate this page to our latest release version (Marvels Cine 3.4).Marvels Cine Picture Style v.3.4 (final)orCopyright © 2011-2015 Marvels Film, the Netherlandsm.beek@marvelsfilm.com Stay up to date by “Liking”Do not forget to read the original articles (with the Phil Holland tests) ““ and “” (no offence 😉About this versionThis version is a replacement for our (latest) standard Marvels Cine Style v3.3. It uses a slightly altered curve, made to preserve luminance linearity in the 65-75% (skin tone) range. It further uses the internal Canon Neutral style instead of the Standard style, but this can be altered from the selected style settings menu in the camera.This picture style has been tested by over 2000 DSLR film makers worldwide during it’s beta stage. All reports, issues, comments and discussions on our blog were taken into consideration before the release of this final version.

Apr 30, 2011  I loaded the picture styles, Cine Style and Marvels Advanced and also I loaded a still picture style offered by Canon called Twilight, which is a very saturated file. So, two very flat for grading and one very saturated to test straight under low light conditions.

Marvels Film has shot two music videos, two documentaries, two interviews and lots of test footage with this style during the beta stage.Marvels vs. TechnicolorWith the Marvels profile 3.4 you will be able to use the maximum dynamic range of your sensor, contrary to the Technicolor CineStyle profile! You can make the Marvels profile as flat as the Technicolor profile by altering it’s curve, dialing the contrast setting further down.InstallationPlease read the installation instructions. You can also search this blog for the many posts on the subject.LicenseThe Marvels Cine Picture Style v.3.4 file by Marvels Film has been licensed following a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivatives 3.0 Unported licence. CC BY-NC-ND. License details:For any reuse, distribution or commercial application of the Marvels Cine Picture Style, you must apply to the license terms of this work. The best way to do this is including a link to our web page, or mentioning Martin Beek or MARVELSFILM as creator of the picture style.Hall of FameWe want to encourage users to tell us what they have achieved with the Marvels Cine picture profiles (old an new).

Music videos, short movies, feature films, commercials – we love to hear about your projects shot with Marvels Cine! The Marvels Cine picture style is (and will remain) free to use and distribute. A mention of our name or a donation is much appreciated (see below). Please leave your name, email address and project description as a comment at the bottom of this page!DonationEach year around the 23th of December, i donate at least 50% of my yearly “picture style income” to charity, via eBay GivingWorks and (previousely) eBay MissionFish. Between 2011 and 2015 i donated 554 dollars to 4 different charity projects, thanks to your generous donations.by PayPal or Creditcard if you use our Picture Style.It’ll be well spent!Martin. I have a commercial which I shot on green screen which was shot using the Cine Style 3.3 on a Canon 5D MarkII. I would like to submit the commercial to you for inclusion on your website.

Hopefully it might give others an idea of how well the Cine Style works with green screen elements. I found the Marvels Cine Style very easy to work with in Adobe After Effects compositing program. Do you have an email address to which I would send the video file as an attachment?all the best from CanadaPaul Taylor. Video reviews to come! This body is rock solid and worthy of purchase for ANY and ALL people entering or needing an advanced DSLR camera. I purchased the body only – I have several lenses from my previous Canons which are NOT currently ‘IS’ lenses. I’ve been shooting people, places and other things for more than 45 years and LOVE this camera.

It’s extremely mobile. I can just flip open my tripod lock and GO! My only issue with the T3i concerns the GRID functions.

These work only in LIVE VIEW MODE (as I’ve found so far). As soon as you move up to manual for full control, you lose the grid (I use the 3×3), which helps me set my composition. Yes, I can use my eye to place an imaginary grid in the viewfinder, but WHY when one is readily available.With my additions on the camera already, video/image reviews will be plentiful. As I learn new tricks and shortcuts, I’ll inform the public so they too can enjoy ALL of the features of this outstanding camera.

The articulating screen wasn’t necessary, yet it IS what made me choose this model over the T2i. The prices were just too close to pass it up. I’ll be adding more T3i and T2i cameras to my photo biz in the coming months, as well as trying out the ‘IS’ lenses. This camera is very tight on power consumption and has extreme accuracy when you set it for pinpoint focusing as I do for model and portrait photography work. The macro features are also on par with its more advanced (and WAY higher priced), big brothers to this camera.

Now, the 18.1MP sensor.WOW! The image sizes of the CMOS sensor allow me great latitude in adjusting and tweaking my RAW images anytime I wish to be creative. If you are just starting out, are bored with the out of date “point-n-shoot,” want to upgrade your digital cams, or you want to move from film to digital, the T3i will not disappoint. It’s an excellent camera for ANY level of photographer – beginner or experienced pro, this camera really shines. Oh, and the video.It’s 1080p HD, nothing more needs to be said. Canon, you’ve been ROCKIN’ my images for years!!!! Stay cool and keep up the great work.

C, Photographic Adventures, Ltd – I’m outta here and back to taking pics!!! Hello M.The problem i experience with the GH2 is, that the picture has much more detail and clarity. It is a newer and more advanced sensor than the Canon DSLR sensors.

If you zoom-in on a Canon frame, things get pretty blurry and blocky at 200%, with a GH2 frame, the picture is still very acceptable at 200%.So, that is my main problem with the Canons; they are not sharp and suffer from a lot of sensor issues, specially in video mode. This apart from the field of view and depth of field differences due to different sensor size.The only way you can match the GH2 with the Canon is by blurring the picture (dial up noise reduction, dial down sharpness) and lower the saturation.

If you further dial down contrast on the GH2 and load the Marvels Cine 3.4 on the Canon, i think you’ll get the best match. Probably need to blur and grade some more in post on the GH2 footage.I admit, the Canon DSLRs and the GH2 are not a pair made in heaven.!Cheers,Martin Beek. Martin,Thanks for your response.I understand the difference in sharpness between the two cams. Here’s the thing- I currently shoot with a dual Canon setup. I recently acquired a GH2 and would like to swap one of the cameras used with that one (especially on wide shots, where moire and/or aliasing could rear its ugly head more often).So, if anything, I don’t mind softening the GH2 to closely match the Canons because it won’t look any worse than what I’ve been doing all along (which the client was happy with).

However, I think that if Canons are used for close up shots (which naturally have more bokeh), the difference in sharpness will be far less noticeable. My concern is in color matching the two.I conducted a quick test to see how closely I could match the two in camera (trying to make my life in post easier):Its not bad, IMO. I think the difference in sharpness isn’t as distracting as I would have expected. But color correction is not one of my strengths. That is why I wonder if a Canon picture style to make the colors more closely resemble what the GH2 gets in camera would make my life (and everyone else who is doing this) easier.Or perhaps vice-versa would be easier? I know the GH2 has their “film modes”, which are sort of similar to Canon’s picture style. Maybe getting the GH2 to match Canon is easier than the other way around.

Or perhaps a happy medium between the two? I guess someone with both cameras would really need to experiment. But this sounds like it is beyond my technical skill level at the moment. I honestly don’t know WHAT you guys did in the kitchen to create Marvels 3.4, but I love it and HIGHLY appreciate it.Not too long ago I totally converted over to LOG profiles as they’re akin to digital film in look and behavior.

So with that, I decided to remain exclusive to the Technicolor Cinestyle. However, as nice as the profile was, the more I used it, the more I disliked what it did to the low-mids and blacks of every image (with Canon’s DSLR compression, making matters much worse).Then I decided to try out Marvels 3.4 and constantly worked in mid-light situations and low-light situations.

I noticed that Marvels could see the exact same details as the Cinestyle, only I didn’t lose my blacks information. It was all there.Needless to say, I had to swallow my pride and converted to 3.4.

Now when I transcode, I use either Cineform or DNxHD 10bit RGB (which flattens even MORE) It’s been really hard to use any other profile now because of you guys.Again, dunno what you did, but you essentially created a LOG profile, without resorting to destroying what information is left in the 8bit color space. And, for that, I commend you guys! I shot the NYC Basketball Mayor’s Cup using Marvels Cine style:Bragging rights in the Public Schools Athletic League will be in the Bronx and Queens for the year, as the Bronx/Queens teams defeated the Manhattan/Brooklyn/Staten Island squad in the Mayor’s Cup at City College of New York. The Mayor’s cup pits the best seniors in the PSAL against one another.

The Bronx/Queens team capitalized on two missed free throws by arguably the best player in the league, Leroy “Truck” Fludd, and scored a late basket to squeak out the thrilling victory in overtime. The Bronx/Queens team took a lead on a layup by JFK’s Muhammed Ahmed following Fludd’s misses, and the Manhattan/Brooklyn/Staten Island team had a chance to win the game late but couldn’t connect. Eagle Academy’s Najee Senior was named MVP for scoring 15 points while Wadleigh’s Basil Harley scored 26 in a losing effort. Senior scored all of his points in the final four minutes of the fourth quarter and overtime.60fps Canon T3iEdited on 23.976 timelineColor correction/grading in FCPX.

Now we all know good pictures involve some creative post processing. I personally think candid portraits with slightly desaturated colors look amazing; as a result I'm trying to make a picture style to that effect.I know I'm not the only one who likes a certain look to some of their pictures, and I think that's where Picture Styles are really amazing. DPP in my opinion has that advantage over any 3rd party RAW editor, it just saves you time with this sort of thing if you don't feel like post processing all the inconsequential things you shoot.I'll share mine once I'm done and hopefully others out there can share theirs too.Lastly, if anyone has any tips for creating PS please drop a hint in this thread. Hi Akint!Great initiative. Here is my humble contribution.Links to Canon resources related to Picture Styles:From the first link you can download 7 additional picture styles (Studio Portrait, Snapshot Portrait, Nostalgia, Clear, Twilight, Emerald, Autumm Hues).Picture Styles are briefly discussed in the following DPP video-tutorial (starts at 18min 30s and lasts 11min).Some general information about pre-loaded Styles:.' Standard' is told to emulate Kodak's Ektachrome 100 slide film emulsion.

Also the 'Portrait' and 'Landscape' styles are told to emulate popular film emulsions.' Neutral' is told to be tweaked to maximize the amount of information transfered to the RGB output (JPEG / TIFF file) and is therefore indicated for JPG shooters and RAW shooters who use DPP for RAW conversion only but do the remaining post-processing e.g. In Photoshop.' Faithful' is told to be the closest to the human eye response.

It seems to use the same tonal curve as 'Neutral' but color tones / satuation are different.Some personal notes of mine.Picture Styles affect the JPG thumbnail embeded in RAW files and the histogram displayed by the camera. There are some threads in this forum about how to tweak the camera's picture style and white balance to make camera histograms more usable for 'Expose-to-the-Right'.'

Standard' is quite contrasty and saturated, what often leads to luminance and/or channel clipping in the RGB output. It worths to try 'Faithfull'.Canon uses a different approach in their PowerShot cameras. Instead of Picture Styles they have something comparable, called 'My Colors'. I wish they would adopt Picture Styles in their RAW-enabled PowerShots at least - and issue Styles for each of those 'My Colors'.Regards, Anonimo. Thanks!Yeah I've noticed that too, it seems the folks into video really know their stuff.

The Picture Styles Editor (Henceforth PSE) isn't as easy as I thought it would be.It involves a lot of trial and error, but on the plus side, I have become very well versed on Color spaces (You have to seriously know what you're doing) but I'm still learning.One picture style that I like in particular is by Kevin Wang on Flickr, he calls it the 'Movie Style'He has some others, but I like this one in particular. It's annoying that PSE doesn't give you manual control over the RGB curves, we would have been able to do so so much if that was made available to us.Right now we can just map certain hues to other hues to approximate this effect, the trouble with this is we don't know how it affects the hues that fall in between the anchor points we select.I have searched but it seems there's not a lot of support for PSE, and the people who have done good work on it, aren't very vocal about how they achieved their results.That being said, I'm sure we'll be able to figure it out. I was just taken aback by the amount of theory involved in knowing how to get to your desired effect.Anonimowrote:Hi Akint!I've made some internet research and found some interesting links about customer-made picture styles.I've noted following mentioned styles: 'Super Flat', 'Genesis Panalog', 'Velvia', 'Cine Gamma', 'Advanced Flat', 'Sepia look', 'Blu-look', 'Kodachrome'.It seems that folks above are being driven by video.Regards, Anonimo. Yeah.Of course, one can simply just create presets in Lightroom or Photoshop to achieve the same thing, but on the rare occasion that you want to shoot in JPEG you can still achieve your desired effect.But not everyone likes sitting down to post process. My excuse is I just want to do something with the PSE and see what I can accomplish should be fun.I also like it because it lets us play with LAB color space. So many possibilities.brightcolourswrote:nathaniel mwrote:picture styles still really confuse me. If i just want the most accurate, detailed RAW file, and do all of my PP (raw conversion and edits) in Aperture, what should i set mine to?As far as I know there are no other RAW converters that actually use picture style data.

So when you use Aperture, it does not matter which picture style you select, it only affects the preview image in the RAW file. The RAW data remains unaffected. Akintwrote:Yeah.Of course, one can simply just create presets in Lightroom or Photoshop to achieve the same thing, but on the rare occasion that you want to shoot in JPEG you can still achieve your desired effect.But not everyone likes sitting down to post process. My excuse is I just want to do something with the PSE and see what I can accomplish should be fun.I also like it because it lets us play with LAB color space. So many possibilities.brightcolourswrote:nathaniel mwrote:picture styles still really confuse me.

If i just want the most accurate, detailed RAW file, and do all of my PP (raw conversion and edits) in Aperture, what should i set mine to?As far as I know there are no other RAW converters that actually use picture style data. So when you use Aperture, it does not matter which picture style you select, it only affects the preview image in the RAW file. The RAW data remains unaffected.thanks to all of you. Those are camera calibration profiles which emulate the picture styles.

Taking it a step further you can get an x-rite color checker passport and make your OWN profile for each shoot (you must create one for the given lighting). Works extremely well, here's an example:Image on the right is custom profile which eliminates the magenta cast improving the skin tone significantly. It renders a more subtle yellow shirt which is closer to reality. You can also see a slightly more pure grey sleeve vs. The image on the left.Joedprsokwrote:I'm confused on this point. LR3 has a setting in the Develop Module where one can choose what looks like Canon Picture styles such as Faithful Standard, Landscape, etc., or Adobe Standard.

What is Adobe Standard? I actually like the image on the left better. Metasploit framework download. To each their own.Joe Marqueswrote:Those are camera calibration profiles which emulate the picture styles.

Taking it a step further you can get an x-rite color checker passport and make your OWN profile for each shoot (you must create one for the given lighting). Works extremely well, here's an example:Image on the right is custom profile which eliminates the magenta cast improving the skin tone significantly.

It renders a more subtle yellow shirt which is closer to reality. You can also see a slightly more pure grey sleeve vs. The image on the left.Joedprsokwrote:I'm confused on this point. LR3 has a setting in the Develop Module where one can choose what looks like Canon Picture styles such as Faithful Standard, Landscape, etc., or Adobe Standard. What is Adobe Standard? Not sure if you know who he is, but he really knows how to work the PSE software.Look on his Flickr page, he claims that all his shots are done with picture styles he created himself. He's even gone as far as making an Infrared one.I found a batch of his picture styles for download (that software is too unintuitive for me and I haven't really had time to figure it out on my own sadly)Hopefully we can take these 'presets' if you will and try to figure out how they came up with them.

Unfortunately, most of them are locked from editing.Edit: Forgot the link. Just found this thread in looking for some info in Picture Styles. Up until recently, I've shot pretty much exculsively in RAW, and never really worried about them.

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With my recent acquisition of a 60D, and the HUGE file sizes that go along with RAW, I'm thinking of using JPG on a number of occasions, hence, my interest in learning about Picture Styles.Here's my question though; Am I right in assuming that using the 'faithful' style might be closest to the color tones I'm going to get when shootingworking with RAW? Even after reading quite a bit, I'm still a lilttle confused, and don't see much visual difference, between it and neutral. I'm not overly happy with the standard setting, just don't care for the reds and a few other things, and I post process everything anyway, to get things the way I like.Thanks for the info in this thread, and the links included.

It's been very helpful so far.-Steve.